Complaint filed against town board members, administrator over closed meeting : Courierlifenews.com

ht bast wrote on Mar 26, 2009 7:30 AM:

" LOL thats funny
we are all arm chairing it. "

headoutofsand wrote on Mar 25, 2009 7:51 PM:

" If I were Schultz and Kelly, I would have just officially refused to participate in the meeting for the duration, which is probably what happened.

But there I go again, armchair 'DA'ing' just like 'ht bast'

Now whether Schultz or Kelly are "Finnish" like ht blast claims, I can't say for sure. My best guess is that Schultz is 'German' and Kelly is 'Irish'. "

ht bast wrote on Mar 25, 2009 2:11 PM:

" The Observer
wrote on
Mar 25, 2009 1:06 PM:

" Howard Kelly and Sue Schultz left the meeting before it went into closed session because it was an illegal meeting. That's been reported in the paper and I believe that should answer your question, HT.
the paper is wrong thay were there from start to finnish. "

The Observer wrote on Mar 25, 2009 1:06 PM:

" Howard Kelly and Sue Schultz left the meeting before it went into closed session because it was an illegal meeting. That's been reported in the paper and I believe that should answer your question, HT. "

ht bast wrote on Mar 25, 2009 1:01 PM:

" if mr kellys responds at board members concerns is clear thinking, i think we have a problem. "

ht bast wrote on Mar 25, 2009 12:45 PM:

" exercise
wrote on Mar 24, 2009 3:18 PM:

" Keeping to the topic of the article, it is good that this potential open meeting violation has been brought to light and is being investigated. It really does not matter who brought it to the DA's attention. The important point is that it is being looked into.

Whether it is determined that a law was broken or not remains to be seen after proper investigation. It is clear that three of the board members and administrator deserve scrutiny based on their actions.

I am grateful to any citizen that takes the time and effort to question government procedure. "

there was 4 board members at that meeting. how come there are no charges agenst mr. kelly "

headoutofsand wrote on Mar 25, 2009 11:29 AM:

" Mr. Kelly,

Thanks for your response and the clear answer.

Consider saving your breath/finger tips however. It is clear that in the minds of contributors such as 'ht bast' and 'Consider This' you will never win a debate. If it appears you are, then the topic of the debate changes again and again.

It is unfortunate that this appears to be the same behavior being demonstrated by chairman Hauser and supervisors Booth and Schaller. They never will admit a mistake. It is always someone elses fault.

Currently you, and lately it seems Mr. Davis, are the only clear thinkers on the town board.

.....it will be interesting to view what disjointed subjects Consider This and ht bast will bring up next in response to this post, but I am tempted to not wait to see. "

ht bast wrote on Mar 25, 2009 9:21 AM:

" mr kelly
were was this reaction with the attack on houser, schallar, and booth.

your parinoid you accused kittzman of driving by your house twice. and if it is true, so what it to you. it is a free country is it not?

I have ben involived, and have ben intimated by what we call the lake nazis. this group is petty and vindictive. take a look at this article,that can't win on substance thay need to defame and sling mud. "

howard kelly wrote on Mar 25, 2009 6:46 AM:

" ht bast
you say its the citizens talking--but its not. It's people at keyboards complaining and not using their real names. Come to a twon meeting and see how much attention I pay to citizens and their thoughts. I do so because i was elected to do so and if they take the time to be there, they deserve it. This--blogs--is just a way to hide and criticise...no accountabilty for what is posted because you can cover under a fake name. That is why the few times i post on these blogs I USE MY REAL NAME...I am not ashemed or afraid of saying what i feel in public,

Sue will not oversee the election, Gail Fitzen who is trained will do it.

i still say if you can do better than the candidates run for election "

Consider This wrote on Mar 24, 2009 5:47 PM:

" 19.84(3)
(3) Public notice of every meeting of a governmental body shall be given at least 24 hours prior to the commencement of such meeting unless for good cause such notice is impossible or impractical, in which case shorter notice may be given, but in no case may the notice be provided less than 2 hours in advance of the meeting.

** Notice 2 hours **

First, Hauser can argue that they needed an emergency meeting because of the secretary's knowledge of account numbers, passwords, etc. The board would need to direct Kitzmann to REVOKE the secretary's access to such things.

Although I'm no fan of Hauser, I DON'T think this is as cut and dried, as it seems. "

ht bast wrote on Mar 24, 2009 4:45 PM:

" exercise
wrote on
Mar 24, 2009 3:17 PM:

" Keeping to the topic of the article, it is good that this potential open meeting violation has been brought to light and is being investigated. It really does not matter who brought it to the DA's attention. The importCejka ant point is that it is being looked into.

Whether it is determined that a law was broken or not remains to be seen after proper investigation. It is clear that three of the board members and administrator deserve scrutiny based on their actions.

I am grateful to any citizen that takes the time and effort to question government procedure. "
if it is not true and if Cejka knows it not true dose she face the same scrutiny? "

exercise wrote on Mar 24, 2009 4:03 PM:

" I do believe Ms. Schultz is NOT working the election and I believe this fact has already been made public some time ago.

One should 'Consider This' available fact prior to making continued droning accusations on blogs. "

exercise wrote on Mar 24, 2009 3:17 PM:

" Keeping to the topic of the article, it is good that this potential open meeting violation has been brought to light and is being investigated. It really does not matter who brought it to the DA's attention. The important point is that it is being looked into.

Whether it is determined that a law was broken or not remains to be seen after proper investigation. It is clear that three of the board members and administrator deserve scrutiny based on their actions.

I am grateful to any citizen that takes the time and effort to question government procedure. "

Consider This wrote on Mar 24, 2009 2:48 PM:

" Paudler and Cejka pushed to take the right to VOTE away from the people. Paudler and Cejka pushed for a town administrator. If it hadn't been for Paudler and Cejka, the town wouldn't be in this mess at all.

Given that Sue Schultz is town clerk, and her husband is running for office, did Cejka ask her to step aside? Did Cejka ask the county/state for OVERSIGHT of this election?

No, she did not!

So is Cejka really "asking our town to follow the rules" or is she just participating in furthering her own self-interest? "

mildred` wrote on Mar 24, 2009 1:12 PM:

" I can appreciate the fact that this fiasco is being looked into...we as residents do not get the whole story through any venue. The Town is in a bad spot. It's poor decision-making. I have not been involved....but plan to be more involved. Candidates need to realize that they are not in their seats to do what THEY want to do. They are to be voices for their constituents. This concept has been lost at all levels. I give Hauser credit for being a better listener than Paudler....but discredit him for continuously siding with the left hand side of his table. I think an open Town meeting is necessary.....new board or old....soon....or the entire facade will crumble. "

ht bast wrote on Mar 24, 2009 9:47 AM:

" h kelly
wrote on Mar 24, 2009 8:57 AM:

" i am so tired of the arm chair critics on these boards. If you feel that Hauser is not a good choice or Paudler is not, that MUST mean you can do better. get out of your chair, go knock on doors with a thought out campaign and get yourself written in as a candidate. I am sure that with your well thought out comments and keen insight you could do a much better job than the other members of the current board and I can do.

if not, quit complaining, come to some meetings, be active in the community and make a difference.
Howard Kelly-- "..........................
this is the town talking to you mr kelly. "

ht bast wrote on Mar 24, 2009 9:27 AM:

" headoutofsand
wrote on
Mar 23, 2009 10:43 PM:

" This should be a fairly straight forward investigation.

1. Was the meeting agenda posted late?

2. Was it in the incorrect form?

3. Did they stay in the locked town hall after the meeting adjourned? Were there witnesses?

Any or all answered 'yes', then the DA's duty should be fairly straight forward as well, and acceptable by any reasonable law abiding citizen."...........if it is no to all of the above let hope we hear of it be for the election "

justme wrote on Mar 24, 2009 5:57 AM:

" Soo, rather than ask elected letters to account for their questionable actions, ConsiderThis would rather attack the person who is rightfully trying to hold them accountable. That is exactly what is wrong in the town of onalaska. Obviously the DA believes there is enough to follow up. Thanks Ms. Cejka for asking our town to follow the rules.

Shameful is right, ConsiderThis you are. "

hank wrote on Mar 24, 2009 4:00 AM:

" A house divided against itself cannot stand. I'm wondering when this ongoing civil war in the town will end. "

headoutofsand wrote on Mar 23, 2009 10:43 PM:

" This should be a fairly straight forward investigation.

1. Was the meeting agenda posted late?

2. Was it in the incorrect form?

3. Did they stay in the locked town hall after the meeting adjourned? Were there witnesses?

Any or all answered 'yes', then the DA's duty should be fairly straight forward as well, and acceptable by any reasonable law abiding citizen. "

Consider This wrote on Mar 23, 2009 10:00 PM:

" One of Paudler's puppets. I remember reading/hearing something about Cejka wanting the administrator job. Looks like she is going to try and take it by attrition.

Shameful! "

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